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Summit Lake in the Clearwater Wilderness
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After a month of dealing with torn apart bathrooms I finally got to get out into the wilderness again! Taking my son James for our end-of-the-summer overnight camping trip, I picked Summit lake in the shadow of Mt Rainer. The past two hikes had been into the Alpine lakes area and I thought it would be fun to get James close to Mt Rainer.
We couldn't have picked a better day to go. The day came clear and sunny, temps in the upper 70s to low eighties. We made good time down to the trailhead and were ready to hike by 9:30 AM. A word of warning to small vehicle owners - the forest service road is pretty rough, six miles of washboard travel and a couple big ruts designed to take out an oil pan. Not to mention one spot where the road looks ready to fall off the side of the hill. I was glad to have my truck!
The hike itself is pretty easy, although I was glad I hadn't picked a more strenous hike since it had been over a month since our last hike. Under three miles gets you to the lake and around 1,000 ft of elevation gain. It took us about 1.5 hrs of easy-going pace. The hike has a few switch-backs and a couple long steady climbs. Not too many rocks. The flowers are blooming and the blueberries are just starting to show.
The lake is gorgeous, crystal clear blue, with three-quarters of the shoreline available for walking/fishing. Most spots the lake is shallow and drops off gradually. The far shore is steep and cliff-faced and not accessable by walking. This would be a good lake to hike in a float tube for day fishing. The campsites are in good shape and offer views of Mt Rainer, depending on which spots you pick. And NOT to be missed is the add on hike to the far cliffs over-looking the lake. An easy quarter mile and 300 ft elevation gain gives you a birds-eye view of the lake and Mt Rainer. We felt like we were on top of the earth! James really enjoyed the view from the top. If you go this lake DO NOT skip this part of the hike!
OK, fishing. In a word - wow! I noted immediately that there were fish rising everywhere, and pretty quickly determined that they were quite picky. The wooleybuggers gave zero interest, and the Fish Creek Spinners, while catching a few fish, were not the ticket. But dry flies - man, these fish jumped all over them! It didn't even matter that I only had one with me and that it was eventually torn to shreads. If the fly floated, the fish would aggresively attack it. If the fly sunk under the water even an inch, theer was no interest. Heck, I had as many hits on my clear casting bobber as I did the fly! I must have caught a couple dozen brook trout in the afternoon (when I least expected to catch fish). They were everywhere along the shoreline and cruising lazily by me. The only downside was this lake seemingly is overrun with tiny fish. Everything I caught was in the 5-8" range, and a lot of skinny fish. Nothing of any great size could I find. The other thing that was of great interest to me was that later, after dinner, I went out and fished and had zero luck. The fish were pretty much done rising and nothing seemed to interest them, including spinners. And it was the same way in the morning. No hatch on the water and no fish biting. So lesson learned - I will add MORE dry flies to my tackle box for Alpine lake fishing, and I will be less worried about time of day fishing.
James and I hiked out the next morning under cloudy skies as a new front came in, beating the rain by a half hour - good timing. We had a great final overnight before school starts. James says this was his favorite of our three hikes this year. I would recommend Summit lake as an easy hike and destination. It's actually outside Mt Rainer park, so you only need your forest service parking permit. Also, expect to share the lake. We had it all to ourselves until 3pm when a group of six teens arrived for what must have been their end of the summer trip. They were kinda loud but thankfully quieted down in the evening. Come up early in the day to get the best camping sites, in my opinion the far side of the lake which has the Mt Rainer view. And be prepared to catch a LOT of little trout!
Final hiking stats: Hiked on Wednesday/Thursday Aug 25-26, 2010, distance hiked: 8.17 miles, elevation gain 1355 feet (includes distance to overview), maximum elevation 5,733 ft.
From Enumclaw drive west on State Route 410 (Chinook Pass Highway) to SR 165. Proceed on SR 165 to the Carbon River Road/Mowich Lake Highway junction. Turn left onto Carbon River Road and follow it to Cayada Creek Road (Forest Road 7810), just before the national park entrance. Turn left (north) and drive about 6.8 miles to the trailhead at the end of FS road 7810.
Our campsite view:
Views from ridge overlooking the lake:


A typical brook trout:
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Posted: 08-26-2010, 11:06 PM
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Who is that WDFW Person?
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Hello Everyone!
So some of you may have been wondering, who is that person from WDFW participating on the forum? My name is Stacie Kelsey, and I grew up in Joseph Oregon - where some of the best hunting and fishing can be had. Some of my best memories are kokanee fishing in Wallowa Lake in a beat up old raft with my Grandpa.
I started my Fisheries career in 1990 with Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife on the Northern Squawfish Predator Prey Project. My first job was fishing for squawfish off of McNary Dam. A lot of fun!!! After a month the Sport Reward Check Stations opened and I transferred to the Umatilla Boat Ramp station.
I was fortunate enough to get extended on through the project and transferred to the Cascade Locks Field Station. In 1992 I jumped ship and joined Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife who had taken over the Sport Reward Program.
I stayed there for another 3 years and then switched to the Inland Fish Program working for John Weinheimer, where I have been ever since. My duties have been varied throughout the past 15 years. If it regarded trout, warmwater fish or grass carp, I was in the middle of it. Whether I was rowing the boat in circles on Packwood Lake with Bob Lucas or getting lost in the woods on a bull trout snorkeling survey, I've had some great adventures. One of the best was taking over the warmwater surveys and operating an 18 ft. Smith Root Electroshocking boat. Nothing beats being on a lake under a starry sky chasing after warmwater fish. For 13 years I oversaw the Youth Program for kids. In 2011 I will be embarking on a new adventure of getting kids introduced to warmwater fishing. I've spoken to various user groups from warmwater/trout clubs to schools and scout groups. I oversee our regional historical databases for fish stocking, fish plants, regulations and other data. In the office I'm know as Radar because I can anticipate what my Sup needs before he knows he needs it!
I became a part of Washington Lakes a long, long time ago - can't remember exactly since the forum was re-designed. I sat down with my Supervisor and we thought, hey, this is a great way to get information out to the public and to get feedback. Find out what the anglers are seeing in their waters. Get their opinions on the trends and places we need to concentrate on different types of fish, fish stocking or enhancement.
I get a lot of education from the folks here on the forum and greatly appreciate it. There is always something for me to learn about the waters in my Region. I look forward to being of further assistance and using these blogs to discuss upcoming projects and issues that affect anglers not only in my Region but outside it as well.
Me sampling bull trout in Merwin Reservoir holding a trout below the dam.
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Posted: 08-22-2010, 07:39 PM
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Canyon Creek
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We had a great weekend of camping and fishing on Canyon Creek, just outside of Grannite Falls. Our camp site was on the river and right next to an un-named hole. We caught seven trout over the three days and kept three.
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Posted: 08-16-2010, 03:40 AM
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Goat Lake in the Henry M Jackson Wilderness
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My son James and I headed out on our second overnight hiking trip of the year. Seems he survived the grueling hike to Copper Lake and was ready for more. I picked a less strenous hike (for both of us!) so we could enjoy the destination a little more. Goat lake is a popular Alpine Lake in the shadow of beautiful snow and glacier capped Foggy Peak Mt. (elevation 6772 ft).
The hike starts with an early decision - go right and take the lower Elliot trail that travels along Elliot Creek, or go left and take an old logging road with steady, gradual ascent. The two trails connect back up about a mile before the lake. The upper trail is I believe a bit longer. The lower trail is a tradional hiking trail. We opted to go up on the lower trail and come back down on the upper, which seemed like a good choice.
The first part of the trail is through lumbered areas, but eventually we hit some old growth. But the highlight of the trail is definatelty McIntosh Falls, as it descends from Goat lake. Big, loud, and impressive - and right there at your feet, so watch your step.
The campsites are all located on the north end of the lake, right near those falls. You can only camp in this established area, and on a weekend I'm sure it fills up. But for us on a Sunday night we only had one other group to share it with. We set up camp after about a 2 hour hike, had lunch, and then walked the east shore 2/3rds of the way to the south end of the lake. The last 1/3 of this walk is through scrub brush and is kinda miserable. But the payoff is a very nice waterfalls and spots to sit and fish from, right at the base of the falls. The fishing in this location was quite good - much better than the other end by the camp sites. I consistantly caught 7-10" eastern brook trout on Fish Creek Spinners. Wooley Buggers hardly interested them. I would cast out, do a 10 second count down, and start reeling. I had several fish hit on the flutter drop. The view on this end of the lake of Foggy Mnt and it's glacier is beautiful. We hung out until 5 or so and went back to camp, made dinner, and enjoyed our peace and seclusion.
The next morning came in with low cloud cover and some light misty/rain. We broke camp and made it back to the car in under two hours, but it did seem like a longer hike. Even saw a bit of wildlife. A grouse (I think?) and then a little later an owl in a tree watching us as we walked by. Glad to be back to the truck by 11ish, we were home by 1pm.
Another great hike, pictures, and memories!
Stats from the GPS: 14.3 miles total hiked, total ascent 1393 ft, max elevation 3125 ft.
From Granite Falls, drive the Mountain Loop Highway east from Verlot to Barlow Pass. At 3.5 miles past Barlow, turn right onto Elliot Creek Road #4080. Drive the road .8 miles to its end. From Darrington, drive the Mountain Loop Highway 19.5 miles and take a left turn on FR 4080. Northwest Forest Pass required.
View looking south

James Whittling...

while dad fishes...

under the waterfall.

And back to our temporary home.
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Posted: 07-13-2010, 01:01 PM
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Lake Serene and Index Mtn Hike
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Lake Serene Hike 7-9-2010
I hiked the lake Serene trail today, having heard so many great (and scary) things about this lake. The great would be a spectacular alpine lake with amazing views, close to home. The not so great – a killer hike with steep switch-backs designed to totally wear a hiker down. Happy to say, the great far outweighed the not so great (which wasn’t that bad).
This lake’s trail had been closed for many years until the Forest Service re-built the trail making it safer and more hiker-friendly. The trail is indeed very steep – and longer than advertised. The sign at the trailhead said “3.6 miles, strenuous hike”, but my round trip GPS came in at 9.6 miles. Elevation gain was 2,083 ft to a maximum elevation of 3,597 ft. It took me about 2.0 hrs in and 1 hr out. I am continuing to be surprised at the discrepancy between the guide book numbers and my GPS unit. There are a LOT of switchbacks, 23 is the number I’ve seen. And a LOT of stairs! They could call this hike “the stairway to heaven”. And heaven would be a good description to use. As I rounded the last switchback and got my view of Mt Index up close, and then actually reached the lake, I was in silent awe. My first impressions were of being in a cathedral and it being a sacred place. The quiet and beauty were amazing. Of course, I did start the hike at 7am so it was just me for about – 15 minutes. Even on a weekday this is a hugely popular hike. There were probably 20 or so groups that I saw today.
I wasn’t sure if there were fish in this lake. I was unable to find any information other than an elevation listing in my Washington State Fishing Guide, but that was good enough to bring my gear with me. I was not disappointed as I quickly observed fishing dimpling the surface. I cast a Fish Creek Spinner out and got an immediate bump, but no hook up. Several fish followed, but each cast less and less did. I switched to a Montana nymph and had an immediate hook up and lost fish, and then the same, nothing. I worked around a boulder field to the far side of the lake and found what I was looking for – deep water close in with large boulders and downed trees for cover. I switched to a green/black wooley bugger and immediately started catching fish. Typical Alpine Lake 6-10”, kinda skinny, but still a lot of fun to being catching fish! I will be honest and admit to poor fish ID skills for these Alpine Lake fish. You tell me from the pictures. I think they are rainbow. I looked and found no red slash marks under the gills. Amazing colors and they are beautiful fish. I caught 3-4 and lost several others.
Time for lunch and then a steady descent back to the parking lot which now had 10-15 vehicles in it. I’m told on a weekend the overflow goes to a lower lot and beyond, so be warned. If you have the opportunity to visit this lake on a weekday – GO! You will not regret the effort because the payoff is well worth it.
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Posted: 07-09-2010, 09:04 PM
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Heather Lake Day Hike and Fishing!
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Finally got to seriously fish an Alpine lake that wasn't frozen over, LOL. Heather lake is located around 10 miles east of Granite Falls, just past the Verlot campgrounds. It's quick hike, about 1.4 miles and maybe 1,000 ft of elevation gain. The lake opens early due to it's lower elevation of 2,450 ft. It's been stocked with cutthroat trout.
The trail itself isn't too bad and I made good time to the top. Unfortunately today was partly cloudy so Mt Pilchuck was obscured. Heather is in a 3/4 basin of rock cliffs and it's quite pretty. There's a nice trail that goes all the way around the lake. I found fish on the far side of the lake and caught several fish in the 6-8" range which I'm guessing is the typical size for this lake. It's not a very big lake, maybe 17 acres, and it didn't seem very deep. I'm frankly surprised it hasn't been fished out considering the heavy traffic I'm sure it gets. I can only hope that most people that fish lakes like this don't keep the fish. Why bother with a dinky little 8" trout anyway? They are beautiful fish though and it was fun to catch something for a change.
I learned some valuable day packing lessons on this trip. First, my day pack is an REI Venturi 30. I brought my slip-over pants light waders and my heavy wading shoes - mistake! The pack wasn't big enough and I had the wading shoes in a bag on the outside of the pack. Very ackward. When I got back to my truck I was thinking maybe I needed a bigger pack, until I looked in my truck and did the classic forehead "knock" with my heel. I have a pair of ultralight plastic clogs that will work just as well as my heavy wading shoes at a fraction of the weight and space. So the Venturi 30 will work just fine. The other thing I realized is my little sack of tackle needed some serious organizing before my next trip, so that's on my "to-do" list. Really need to come prepared because hey, fishing time is premium time and I don't want to have it go to waste. This year has not been good for me fishing. Ever since Aaron and I did the full day of fly fishing on the Yakima my right elbow has been aching. My doctor told me this week it was tendonitis and recommended continued rest, PT, and maybe an MRI if it doesn't get better. So I've not done any meaningful fishing since then. But, today was good and I was careful to not overdo it. Plus a light spinning rod was comfortable to cast. I'm lookign forward to spending this summer hiking, fishing, and camping more Alpine spots. Funny how life goes in cycles. I did this 20+ years ago and got away from it (hiking/wilderness camping) and now I have the bug again. Sweet!




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Posted: 06-29-2010, 08:46 PM
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Copper and Trout Lakes Overnight, June 22,2010
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My 16 year old son James and I got to go on our first father-son overnight camping trip of the year. He had mentioned he wanted to do some camping this year so I looked for a first hike which I hoped would not be too difficult yet still give him a taste of the Alpine Lakes region. I checked the Forest Service web site and determined that the Copper lake trail was open. I checked the distance - 3.5 miles in - not too bad - and the elevation gain - ouch 2,000 ft in the last 1.5 miles. Well, I figured, a short amount of pain would be worth the great location... my bad!
The first part of the hike went "OK". James seemed to be huffing on a stretch I thought was nothing much, but I figured he was getting his legs warmed up. By the time we reached trout lake I realized that he would need some help to make it to Copper lake, so I repacked the back packs and got him as light as I could. Trout lake (17 acres, 2012 ft) is a pleasant little lake, said to have rainbow in it. I saw a couple dimples out in the middle of the lake while we had our lunch.
The crossing of the West Foss river proved to be interesting as the spring run-off had raised the river level and removed the easy log bridges previously there. We managed to get across and begin the difficult ascent to Copper Lake. Switchbacks and steep trails did their best to beat our will, but we climbed ever higher, greeted by the roar of Malachite Falls in it's full flow. Quite a sight to see and hear. There was a point I turned and said to James, "We aren't going to let this mountain beat us, are we." Not a question, but a statement. He was doing better now and just said "Let's keep going". Maybe it was resignation, I don't know, but he seemed to have gotten his second wind. As we reached the falls we came to our first patches of snow, which soon became more snow than trail, and finally just snow. Fortunately others had come before us and a path in the snow led to Copper lake and a nice, snow free camping spot. We set camp and enjoyed a view of a almost fully frozen lake. The snow cover obscured much of the surrounding peaks, but the next morning we had clear skies and a great view. Copper Lake lies at around 4,000 elevation, is 148 acres, and is said to hold rainbow, cutthroat, and eastern brook trout. Obviously no fishing for me this day with only small shoreline areas free of ice. James and I enjoyed our now re-hydrated chicken/potatoes/corn dinner and retired to an early evening of reading and James listening to his i-pod.
As mentioned, the next morning came with clear blue skies and gorgeous views. The descent down was a workout as well, and I'm feeling the effects of a cold, although my sleeping bag was warm enough. It was tough and we were both very happy to make it back to the truck and home to civilization. I was worried I had done the opposite of exciting James into further camping adventures, until he turned to me and said "thanks for taking me camping". Coming from a 16 year old that was as much enthusiasm as I could ever ask for! I will plan on the next overnight being a far easy hike though.
Hiking stats from my GPS hand held: 13.8 miles hiked, total elevation gained 2,649 feet, maximum elevation 4,342 feet. I'm guessing the guide books don't do a very good job of estimating switchback distance, just distance as the crow flys.





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Posted: 06-22-2010, 11:24 PM
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A Good Day To Stand In The Rain And Fish
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I waded the Skykomish at Sultan again today. This was my first time float fishing with a Torpedo Bobber with a marabou jig below it. It was raining and cold and I didn't catch anything, but it was still a good day to be out. I will be out again on Thursday and Friday. I think I will stick to the bobber and I might try Reider for the first time.
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Posted: 06-16-2010, 04:00 AM
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Lake Shannon Chinook…here’s what I know.
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Last year I took the dam PSE tour, or should that be PSE dam tour that was offered as a public relations event. (Don’t get me started on dam jokes…). One of the speakers was a PSE biologist. As part of their dam permit they have to understand and enhance the fisheries, assure public access and protect the endangered Baker River sockeye. As part of their compliance efforts they transport both adult sockeye and sockeye smolt past the dams to and from Baker Lake. They also operate a sockeye hatchery that is located just below the dam that forms Baker Lake. During the tour we got to visit the collection facility on the Baker River, the smolt collection operations on Baker Lake and the hatchery. Not sure if it was planned or not but the timing was such that there were significant numbers of sockeye on the spawning beds at the hatchery facility. During the tour I asked about 1,000 questions, mostly directed at the biologist. Some of my questions were directed at the historical runs of fish in the Baker system.
It turns out that pre-dams the Baker system hosted sockeye, dolly varden, pinks, a small run of coho and an even smaller run of Chinook. When the dams were first built they basically eliminated the pinks, coho and chinook from the river system. I am not sure if the intent was to eliminate competition for the sockeye or if it was to better manage the fisheries management resources. I think that it is conceivable that both coho and chinook ultimately survived the species elimination efforts and exist as a landlocked version of the original gene pool for those fish. I know that there are chinook in both lakes. My recent fish and if I recall correctly somebody posted a picture of a Chinook that was caught and released in Baker Lake last year.
I think that my success yesterday may have been because of salmon smolt migration in the lake. The channel is restricted and very well defined in the area that I was fishing. I think that the predatory fish are holding up in the stumps waiting in ambush for the smolt migration.
If you decide to make the drive to Lake Shannon or Baker Lake and fish be aware of the slot limit. The fish have to be between 6 and 18” to keep them. As with many areas in the state you are not allowed to retain dolly varden. Also Because the WDFW rules pamphlet does not specifically say you can retain salmon all salmon must be released unharmed.
I like trolling; in fact 99% of my trout/kokanee fishing is done by dragging some form of bling and hooks around behind the boat. Both Baker Lake and Lake Shannon offer anchor/chum fisheries. Lake Shannon has a plastic log boom at the dam that many people fish against. I would not suggest actually tying the log boom but instead just lower a weighted object on a few feet of rope over the far side of the log boom and secure it from the side of your boat. Up where Thunder Creek flows into Lake Shannon there are a number of buoys that where placed in deeper water specifically to fish kokanee from. They are available to the public on a first come first served basis. When anchor/chum fishing don’t limit your self to just salmon eggs for hook bait. Try corn, scented corn, worms and even jigs. Yesterday I caught a kokanee on a white 1/8 ounce pink/white steelhead jig. In my antidotal experience anchor and chum fish are small and if you want a “real fish” you have to troll to catch it.
When trolling Lake Shannon or Baker Lake I would stick with the dodger/wedding ring setups. My primary reason is this rig will target the kokanee and the fish you catch can go home with you. If you are a bit of a fishing adventurist and don’t care that your prize fish has to stay in the lake, other methods can be employed to catch fish in the two lakes. As a disclaimer in my mind the WDFW Sportsfishing Rules pamphlet is fuzzy on this subject but I am not sure that you can target fish that are illegal to retrain. Check the regulations and decide for your self. Other methods that I have played with that are noteworthy and sould be considered are trolling large spoons with whole worms or night crawlers, large salt water flies, small salmon plugs, Rapala type stick baits, dodger/squid offerings and (shhhh…) a 0000 dodger followed by two size 4 red hooks tied in-line and very close to each other on a 8-10” 10# test leader. Be careful though, although this rig will catch kokanee it might be considered that you are targeting a federally protected sockeye with this rig.
Both Baker Lake and Lake Shannon are a great medication for those of us that are afflicted with a chronic case of cabin fever. In addition to what can be some great lake fishing, you can slide your boat up on the beach at one of the many creek inlets and fish the creeks, have a picnic, swim, go hiking, layout or set up your beach chair with a Tecate and catch some rays. The boat ramp area at Shannon is day use only so you can’t camp on the shores of Shannon but there are numerous areas around Baker Lake, both developed and undeveloped where you can pull your boat up and camp. If you do camp, make sure that your campsite is bear safe. The remnants of a fried kokanee (in bacon fat, the byproduct of a bacon/wilted spinach salad served just before the kokanee) dinner may prove to be irresistible to a hungry bear. Both lakes are high on my getaway list, offering incredible scenery, wildlife viewing and many outdoor activities.
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Posted: 06-06-2010, 11:43 AM
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Two times out twice skunked (not literaly)
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I grew up fishing in NW Pennsylvania, boy I am surprised at how different it is out here. I have lived in Washington for fifteen years now. The one thing I have noticed that is different is access. You can fish anywhere in PA. Out here the toughest access comes for the shore casters and waders. There are plenty of lakes and rivers but if you don't have a boat you are very restricted in your fishing endeavors.
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Fished Saturday 22 May 2010 at lake Boardman, Snohomish County. We got caught in a hail storm. We fished from shore with orange Power Bait rigged on a treble hook with a quarter ounce egg shaped sinker rigged to slip. No fish were caught that day.
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Fished Tuesday 01 June 2010 at Blackman's Lake, Snohomish County. Didn't catch anything. Two men fishing beside me on the north dock caught one twelve incher each. They were using power eggs and worms I tried red and green power bait with not luck.
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Posted: 06-02-2010, 01:36 AM
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