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Deadeyemark
Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:47:08 AM

Rank: Commander

Joined: 5/6/2007
Posts: 302
Location: WA
Keep us up to date on this situation Don. You're right about having a much stronger voice as a chapter. I've got a few items on my agenda also. One is the access to Lk Tapps. Another is Pierce Co Code 8.88.460 which allows water skiers to ski to and from their docks in 'No Wake' zones. As a group, these items will need to be discussed and I'm sure we'll be heard. This forum will also help. We all have to police this sport.

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Mark

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KUP
Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:27:09 PM

Rank: Warrant Officer

Joined: 5/1/2007
Posts: 174
Location: Kent
Excellent posts, gentlemen!
You are correct; there is power in numbers and every voice is needed.

Bring these "situations" to the meeting.
We all need to be informed.. it could happen on YOUR favorite lake.
Actions like this affect ALL fishermen.

Bring your suggestions for the Chapter.

BRING YOUR IDEAS to add to the list some of us have started.

But most of all, most of all,

COME TO THE MEETING.

We need every set of eyeballs in this Northwest District to step up to the plate and make the trip.
There are a lot of people watching us.
Let's show them the strength of our band of Muskie Hunters and what we CAN DO for the fishery.

It's important.

Lead by example.
KUP
Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:54:16 PM

Rank: Warrant Officer

Joined: 5/1/2007
Posts: 174
Location: Kent
Sorry.
I must sound like a broken record.
I'll shut up about the meeting.

All I care about it the fish.



Lead by example.
Don Wittenberger
Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 5:14:50 PM
Rank: Commander

Joined: 5/4/2007
Posts: 387
Location: Shoreline
Mark has corresponded with me by e-mail about the Lake Tapps access situation. In a nutshell, there are two public boat ramps at Lk. Tapps, and both are controlled by local jurisdictions (Pierce County and City of Bonney Lake) who have chosen to charge launching fees that are extremely discriminatory against non-residents. Consequently, if you are not a local resident, launching a boat at that lake is unaffordable.

Local communities often receive state (or even federal) funding to build recreation facilities. If these boat ramps were built largely or entirely with local taxes, then they've got a legitimate point -- "our local taxpayers have already paid for them, so they shouldn't pay again." But if little or none of the money came from local taxes, then we paid for these facilities too, and it's inappropriate (and possibly illegal) for the county and city to charge discriminatory fees. Determining this will take some research.

It's tempting to say, well let's get WDFW to build a free boat access facility at Lk. Tapps, that will solve the problem. However, even if WDFW could find a suitable piece of available shoreline, and dig up the money to buy it (Tapps shoreline is extremely expensive), what you'd end up with is all the speed boaters and ski boaters and jet sledders, etc., currently using the fee ramps flocking to the WDFW site and the fishermen wouldn't be able to get in there or find parking.

You'll probably find that the Lake Tapps homeowners' association is solidly in favor of the high fees to keep down the number of "outsiders" buzzing "their" lake, and they probably exert pretty strong political pressure on the local governments that manage these facilities. Another thing to keep in mind is that if high launch fees keep a lot of Seattle fishermen off Lake Tapps, that reduces fishing pressure and end up with a more productive tiger muskie fishery for the people who do fish there.

I certainly feel Lake Tapps access is an appropriate issue for a muskie club to tackle, but the first step should be to get accurate information about the reasoning behind the discriminatory launch fees, who authorized it, what the applicable laws are, and whether any state regulations were violated in the process. We should also contact the facility managers to find out if there's any way to give fishermen better access to the lake. Maybe we could negotiate a reduced fee for anglers, or at least a reduced fee for anglers at certain low-utilization times (such as weekdays and the off-seasons before Memorial Day and after Labor Day). Conceivably, it might be possible to get some improvement to the situation simply by talking to the right people. That's certainly worth exploring, in my opinion.

Deadeyemark
Posted: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:23:40 PM

Rank: Commander

Joined: 5/6/2007
Posts: 302
Location: WA
Don,
I've been trying to deal with these issues for about 3 seasons now. To tell you the truth, I find it hard to believe that you're not up to date on all of these issues. No offense but the access/boat launch situation has been in the papers for months. Many lies were told in order to increase the Allen York Park boat launch fee. You're welcome to research it. I have been for months now. I've been sending emails and writing letters for a few years. I've tried to get the WDFW involved more but no dice. I've been hitting on Brewster(Bruce Bolding)pretty hard about some of the Lk Tapps issues.
IE: City of Bonney Lk has to stay within a % of other area boat launch fees but lied and said that Pierce Co charges $14. They charge $10 to launch which includes parking your rig. They charge $4 to park and just use the park. Bonney Lake added the two together and stated that Pierce Co charged $14 so they can raise their's to $17. They had to raise their resident fee the same % so they lied and stated that they had previously charge $5 for an annual sticker and are now raising it to $25. BS It's been $25 for years. I've got a couple friends up there that buy an annual sticker and have for years at the $25 price tag.
I've forwarded this info to the IAC for Margareite Austin and Lorinda Anderson to look into. I"ve also forwarded it to Kathy Smith(director Pierce Co Parks). I've also written numerous emails to the local papers asking them to look into these situations and PRINT THE TRUTH.
I've asked for help from the local bass clubs to no avail.
I did manage to get a meeting with Kathy Smith and some of her park managers, myself and a few other fishermen and managed to get them to open the gate at the Lk Tapps Pierce Co boat launch last year starting at 6:30 am which is alot better than the 8 am that it had been for years. It still closes at 8 pm though.
I've sent out emails concerning this year but haven't heard back yet concerning an early opening.
I could go on and on but I think you get the picture.
This is a major issue on a beautiful musky/bass lake right here under our noses. It has close to 60 miles of shoreline, numerous islands, unlimited cover and more structure than any other lake of it's size that I've ever seen.
Something has to be done and soon before it's CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC!!!

Share The Thrill,
Practice Catch & Release
Mark

Ducktail Lures
Frabill Inc
Bikini Bait Co
Stan Durst Custom Lure Painting
Charlie's Leaders
Northwest Sportsman Magazine
KUP
Posted: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:02:08 PM

Rank: Warrant Officer

Joined: 5/1/2007
Posts: 174
Location: Kent
Well, here it is, one day before the Muskies Inc. Chapter start-up and info meeting.!
Are you ready!!! Hey guess what, I just received a couple of boxes from Rollie and Helen's Musky Shop
with "goodies" in them!!!
If you sign-up to be a member of Muskies Inc. tomorrow night, you will receive a "FREE" raffle ticket to win a bait pkg. worth $35.00!!!. That is the cost of joining! There will be three lucky winners!!! That's a $105.00 give away!!!! Hey, what a deal, but you better hurry, because the more I look at these baits the more I want to keep them!!!!Drool Remember, this is a free meeting and WELCOME TO ALL!
See you there!!!




Lead by example.
bad esox
Posted: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:15:46 PM
Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 5/2/2007
Posts: 85
Location: Kent
Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to say THANKS!!!! for attending Washington States first Muskies Inc. Chapter meeting. It was a huge success with about 35 Anglers attending.
Thanks to Steve, and Bruce, from the WDFW for coming and sharing their information. Nicely done gentlemen. We will be looking forward to working closely with you in the future.
It was a GREAT first meeting! Many new friends were made and some "tales" told. What a fantastic group of anglers I can't tell you all how wonderful this is for our sport and what a "bonus" it will be for our future here in Washington.

Thanks to everyone who attended the meeting it was truly a pleasure to meet you all. For those who couldn't make this meeting we will be looking forward to meeting with you next month:) Thursday the 21st, Denny's Federal Way (same place), 7p.m. Bring a friend, bring family members, learn something new, but most of all have fun!


>----):< "A good gamefish is too valuable, to be caught only once."
KUP
Posted: Sunday, June 17, 2007 2:53:57 AM

Rank: Warrant Officer

Joined: 5/1/2007
Posts: 174
Location: Kent
2nd Meeting of Muskies Inc. Washington Chapter!
Come on down to Federal Way next Thursday night and
meet some of the tenacious anglers who hunt for this predator.
Meeting is free and open to all. There will be a raffle and door prizes.

Terry and Jim from Lake Mayfield Resort will be there with Muskie Tournament updates and applications.
Get 'em while they're hot! Sweet-talk Mr. Muskie into the boat and bring home : $1,400.00 1st place prize,
$900.00 for 2nd place and $500.00 for 3rd place!

Also on the agenda are Board Members, web page design and some logo selections.

Talk to the locals and find out what lures are working on what lakes!
If you love to/want to fish for muskies, you belong here!

June 21st, 7:00 pm Denny's at 2132 S. 320th Way.
See you there... bring a friend!
info at: nwmuskie@comcast.net and/or 253-850-5889

Lead by example.
KUP
Posted: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:44:41 PM

Rank: Warrant Officer

Joined: 5/1/2007
Posts: 174
Location: Kent
Change in meeting place due to Denny's double-booking!

We will gather at the
Comfort Inn
31622 Pacific Hwy South
Federal Way, WA 98003
(253) 529-0101

just a few blocks from Denny's
and just for tonight.
One of the Sportsman's Warehouses will be letting us hold our future meetings there. More info at the meeting.
(There will be a sign posted at Denny's , too, so there are no lost anglers)
See ya there!

Lead by example.
KUP
Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 3:02:34 PM

Rank: Warrant Officer

Joined: 5/1/2007
Posts: 174
Location: Kent
Another GREAT Meeting! This Chapter 57 of Muskies Inc. is up and off the weed beds! We had another big turnout (32!) and more people signed up to be members.

* Mark W. started it off with a VERY $u$$eful RAFFLE thanks to Duckbill Lures and Frabill products.... (Mark H.: I
have used that telescoping lure retriever and it's greatly effective for getting back "lost" lures.... yes, even out
of the trees. d'oh!
* Terry and Jim, managers of the Lake Mayfield Resort and Marina gave a status report on the September 15 &
16, two-day MAYFIELD MUSKIES TOURNAMENT. The Resort is offering a 20% discount off winter rates (for a 2
night stay) and 10% discount (for 1 night) for lodging & RV Sites for participating anglers and tournament staff.
They also plan to do an EARLY drivers meeting and then a dinner on Sat. night, along with Awards.
CALL THEM TO GET SIGNED UP FOR TOURNAMENT, ONLY 30 BOATS 1-360-985-2357
* We snagged a new, regular LOCATION FOR FUTURE MEETING: The manager at the Federal Way Sportsman
Warehouse, Steve Capps, has offered us a meeting room in the upstairs employee lunchroom area. The
manager of the fishing department there, Keith, says he plans on stocking more muskie lures, too.
So come early and do a little shopping!

The address is 1405 S. 348th St. Federal Way. Phone is 253-835-4100.

* Chapter 57 added a new name, NW TIGER PAC. With it comes a cool new logo that will be available next
meeting on some wild colored T-shirts. Stay tuned for the posting of the graphic.
* WEB page is still a “work in progress” looking for volunteers with web experience.
The address is www.nwtigermuskies.com
* Hot-line message number: 253-850-5889.
* Email is nwmuskie@comcast.net

Four members from WDFW attended: Steve Jackson; Warmwater Program Manager along with Bruce Bolding, Steve Caromile and Bruce Baker. They discussed the Yellow Anglers Diary binder and its importance.

The MAIN EVENT for the evening featured Mark Wells giving a thorough an informative demonstration of correct muskie release techniques.
He also covered “must-have tools” for muskie fishing.


*SUMMER TOURNAMENTS: One plan was Lake Mayfield in July and Lake Tapps in August .
More info on this to follow.

Next NW TIGER PAC meeting will be:
Thursday, July 19, 2007 @ 6:30 (new start time) until 8:30 PM (store closes @ 9:00pm)
at the Federal Way Sportsman’s Warehouse, upstairs.
1405 S. 348th St. Federal Way

See you there!



“While it is Muskies Inc.'s policy to encourage
the careful release of healthy Muskies
that are not personal trophies to the angler,
it is not our policy to intimidate or pressure any angler
or group of anglers into releasing Muskies.
We lead by example”.


KUP attached the following image(s):
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Lead by example.
YellowBear
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:00:17 PM

Rank: Lieutenant

Joined: 5/2/2007
Posts: 261
Location: Potholes
Was there any talk from the WDFW of future Musky projects in Washington State?

YellowBear
Life member N.A.F.C.
Angling Masters international
Good luck and be safe
luv2lrn
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:40:03 PM

Rank: Angler

Joined: 5/29/2007
Posts: 8
Location: Orting, WA
My husband and I will hopefully be able to attend the next meeting, not tomorrow's though! I'd go tomorrow, but it would look kinda funny for a 26 year old female to be there alone! So I will wait till my husband can come! Have fun everyone! Just let me know when and where the next meeting will be!!!
KUP
Posted: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:35:57 PM

Rank: Warrant Officer

Joined: 5/1/2007
Posts: 174
Location: Kent
luv2lrn: It is always the 3rd Thursday of the month; so the next one (after tomorrow night) is August 16th, 6:30pm same place. Which is just 9 days before the Tapps Tournament. You are always welcome, with your husband or alone. We have several women anglers who hunt for this fish and they will be happy to give you a warm welcome.


Lead by example.
Kenster
Posted: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:34:13 PM

Rank: Warrant Officer

Joined: 5/7/2007
Posts: 177
Location: South King
luv2lrn wrote:
My husband and I will hopefully be able to attend the next meeting, not tomorrow's though! I'd go tomorrow, but it would look kinda funny for a 26 year old female to be there alone! So I will wait till my husband can come! Have fun everyone! Just let me know when and where the next meeting will be!!!


So are you and your husband making the Jack and Jill tourney at Mayfield? The more the marrier!!!
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